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Flagging for mod attention is useful. Adding a comment can also engage the user to get them to stop rolling back (as I have now done). Some people are very protective of their "voice" and any edit is seen as a personal assault. But we are here not just to answer the question in the moment, but to have that question and answer available to others who might ...


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My opinion is that if the OP thought that MAC addresses are part of HTTP or called a key exchange protocol an encryption protocol then there must be other people thinking the same, and the correct way to handle this is with comments and answers. Next time someone finds the question on Google and clicks on it, they'd see that they had a misconception and ...


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My biggest problem is that the resulting edit has more your words than mine. There is no choice but to change tone when that happens. You changed "terrible" to "wrong" and removed the entire text talking about the "wide ranging series of failures". The tone and focus fundamentally changed as a result. It went from OMGWTFBBQ! to an auditor's reasoned ...


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I swear there was a better duplicate on another meta somewhere, but the best I can find now is this. I think most SE sites prefer text over images if it is the text that is relevant and the image isn't really necessary. Since the OP can easily copy/paste the original text rather than someone else having to transcribe it from the image I think it's best to ...


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It is a fairly touchy question as both options have their good and bad sides. I have seen a good 25-35% of IP related questions that get resolved much more easily when it is shown as is. Askers often make mistakes in the way they present the IP to hide it, or they hide part of the problem by hiding the IP. Add to that the possibility of getting a ...


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Yes. New users with 1 rep can edit their own question. I suspect the phenomenom you noticed is mainly caused by: The fact that people are more used to forums, where the preferred way is to add a new post to the conversation instead of editing the initial post, Maybe to a less extent that the "add a comment" link may be more visible than the edit one. A ...


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In my opinion, we don't need to know the IP addresses, at least not in their complete form. Maybe if those addresses are already blacklisted, and the OP doesn't know it, we could tell with some confidence that they are probably being used to carry out some attack, as opposed to be (for example) the addresses of normal users who entered the wrong password. ...


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Oh... oh god yes. This isn't even a question. You should always edit to improve/update/complete/redo/any amount of other reasons. Sure it could change the score of the answer but that is EXACTLY what upvotes and downvotes are for. If that didn't exist, people would be looking at old/outdated/wrong information all the time instead of the newly updated ...


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Actually, the author tried to add it to your answer and it got rejected by the community because it had no context. In general, collaborating on posts is fine as long as everyone is ok with it. Clear communication is key!


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For reference, these are the Meta.SO QAs I typically refer to on discouraging screenshots in the first place and what to do when you see one. I certainly don't fix every post I come across, but I've had pretty terrible success with convincing an OP to transcribe their own screenshot or reproduce and copy/paste the IO. I only do it myself when it catches my ...


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You just made the first step, and hopefully, our reviewers also read our meta. Agreed, suggesting edits from same person accounts could be used to gain site reputation (say, only 10 reputation points are needed to remove new user restrictions, i.e. only 5 suggested edits which, if they were made on same user contributions, the same user can approve from ...


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Here is an image I love: The first and last picture in particular show the difference there might sometimes be between things that users ask, and things that users actually need. New SE users especially may ask questions in a way not suitable for SE website (it could for various reasons), while the need behind the question might match SE website activity. ...


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100% agree. Here is a closed question that is a good example of the problem: Metasploit ssh_enumusers stops instantly So long user72598. We hardly knew ye. It might have been nice to keep him around since he seems to actually be gaining experience in using security tools and found a bug in Metasploit that the author of Metaploit responded to in that ...


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I hadn't seen that question, but I can see why it got those close votes: the final sentence is not answerable - it could be yes or no. In principle though I agree with you - I think the question would be fine if we just deleted that line.


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I would suggest your first paragraph is the problem here. While you may think that you are providing useful information, it is a dramatic change to the question. Your second paragraph is absolutely fine - I'd mark it as a good edit - but please don't make major changes to the question that the OP never intended. Seeing those links and comments as part of ...


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No, we should generally leave them as-is Having the full IP address would allow other users to: Get its reverse host Look up the owner of that address Check for its presence in blacklists Verify if it appears on the logs of other users And removing the IP address won't remove it from the edit history, anyway. For a proper hiding, it should have been ...


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I do think a canonical question would be in order, but I do not think that candidate is fitting. The answers are far too specific to secrets with the specific properties of encryption keys such that editing them to be more general would not be as simple as changing the phrasing. For example, peppers can simply be stored in a file in /etc, since all that ...


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The model I have been using is based on the fact that this is a site for Information Security professionals (yes, not only them, but that's the basis). If an acronym is within the standard Body of Knowledge of an Information Security professional, then we need not expand for the community. Or if the acronym is used so ubiquitously that the acronym is ...


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In my eyes, you took over the question. In your own words, you "removed an incorrect statement", which is beyond the scope of an editor. You also doubled the word count of the question (from 78 words to 143 words). In your other linked edit that was rejected, you also made sweeping changes. When someone writes, they have a tone, a voice, and hidden ...


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I approve of fixing the misconception only when the original is so hopelessly bad that it would otherwise be closed or unanswered. An answered question is better than an unanswered or unanswerable one.


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This one was one I rejected today - As @scuzzy-delta pointed out, this has gone through vast debate, and generally the view is that removal of just the salutation is really not worth the effort. If there are more substantial edits you can carry out at the same time, please include removal of salutations, but otherwise this was 'too minor' which is the ...


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The following happend: We both were editing at the same time, but you submitted your edit first. So when I submitted mine it overwrote yours. I saw what had happend, and thought your edit was much better than mine. So I figured I better restore it. While I was resubmitting your edit, you did the same. And again I ended up overwriting your edit. I realize I ...


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While in general I agree - this is an English speaking site and we should ensure that all comments etc are in English - in this specific instance Shikata ga nai is the name of the tool that the editor correctly edited in to the post, along with some other good edits. So I wouldn't be too concerned this time. To the editor - please stick to English next time....


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Hi @Jeff Gohlke great to read your question and hope you enjoy my answer. I respectfully disagree that it is "common policy". The discussions linked to indicate there is actually significant debate about whether or not intros and outtros should be retained or edited out. The balance appears to have tilted in favor of "remove intros", but IMO a significant ...


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The tag sounds good to me in principle. 12 questions is ok to do in one go. I'm not sure we really need to make the distinction between plugins and extensions (it's a bit of an implementation detail), but many of these questions aren't tagged plugin anyway and it's easier to merge tags than split them. I say go for it. (Please wait a little to see if ...


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In my opinion, new users aren't gaming the system. Instead, they are confused by the multiple login options provided... perhaps they are at a different computer and log in using FB on one, and Google on the other. I know from personal experience that it's a pain to authorize a new workstation if multifactor and other security controls are set up. ...


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Reputation gains from edits work only up to 2000 rep. An industrious user may pull it off once or twice (subject to actually doing 1000 edits, that all get accepted -- this is hard work), but repeated merges with accounts at 2000 rep ought to attract some attention. This is low-grade gaming. I don't see it as a major threat.


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Here are my thoughts on how to handle situations like this: Do not roll back the roll back. That is just starting an edit war and will lead you nowhere. You can leave a comment (as I did) and try to explain. If you do, do it as politely as possible. Someone else using a bad tone is not an excuse for you to do the same. If you do not feel that you have the ...


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